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TITLE: Observing
Judgmental Attitude in 'Should' – Testing Versus Belief
Having a judgmental attitude with the use of the word 'should'—a
higher consciousness. In this unrehearsed interview with Shaman
Charles Crooks, he answers several questions from a shamanic
viewpoint, including, “Why take ‘should’ out of your vocabulary?”
and “Does he consider himself (being a shaman) at a higher
consciousness than others?" and “Why is testing information
presented beneficial?” We learn that this particular shaman is
working to lift up humanity and respects all others. He promotes
acceptance, not judgment. Listen below to learn more. You can also
read the transcription below the video.
Please click here for the Transcript 2 Video
Note: All questions and
responses in the above interview were unrehearsed.
Cindy:
I'm back with Charles Crooks, who's the shaman I've been working
with for the last several years. Thanks again, Charles, for being
with us this afternoon.
Shaman Charles:
You're quite welcome.
Cindy:
Continuing on our discussion, when I first met you, you said to me,
"Take 'should' out of your
vocabulary." Can you tell me why you wanted me to do that?
Shaman Charles: 'Should'
is one of my favorite…if I was going to remove…if I had complete and
ultimate power, I'd remove 'should' from the English language. The
primary reason is 'should' implies that you're a failure. When you
say, "I should have done
something," that basically translates to
"I'm an idiot…I didn't do it
right…I failed." And as
a result, that is the reality of our tone and our attitude when we
say, "I should have done
something." And as a result, all it does is generate a reality
that is non-productive. However, I would like to replace it with
something different. For example, if I use the term
"I should have," [then],
I'm doing judgment. However, if I use the term
"if I'd done that
differently, it might have worked out better"—and again now we
are not beating up on ourselves. Now we are planning. Now we are
working on the better way of doing things. This is called learning
and also, what you might call, the constructive process.
Cindy:
So, you talked about judgment. So what you're saying…you keep
saying, "We are all part of
the whole and not separate." You had once told me, again about
the 'should,' that 'should' assumes I know more than the other
person, which that's a state of judgment.
Shaman Charles:
Yes.
Cindy:
So you're about accepting everybody as part of that whole…and so not
acting like we're above or below anybody…or above or below even
ourselves? Is that what you're saying?
Shaman Charles:
Pretty much so. I would put it this way. When you use a process of
judgment, it is a point of separation. The reason is, is because
you're separating yourself [from] another and two things are going
on: you are either superior or inferior to the person you see. But,
when you really look at the whole of things, you'll find that you're
not separate, but that you're part of the whole. However, our
intellect finds it easier to separate things because it can only
deal with things at that level. So, when you look at judgment—the
problem is, is you're basically saying,
"I'm superior to that,
therefore that person should do what I tell them to do." And
that's only going to irritate the beans out of that person because
they know you're completely off base. However, if we turn that
around and say… Okay, rather than what that person should do or
rather than using judgment, let's look at observation. Now the
beauty of observation is…I know a particular pie to be a pecan pie
and I know that the pecans are good and that's my observation. But
somebody's that allergic to pecan pie that would be a complete
disaster. And so, again, you have two different observations, but
neither one is superior to the other. So the idea is to remove
superiority out of the equation completely and recognize the fact
is—that everything that you perceive around you is actually
happening within. So your realization of another person is the best
and possibly the brightest that is inside yourself and also probably
the most wicked that is inside yourself.
Cindy:
Wow. That's pretty good. So now, you're trying to…you told us in the
last segment we did that you’re trying to uplift mankind. So do you
consider yourself at a higher consciousness than somebody else? Or
do you consider yourself 'higher' because I know you don't believe
in this judgment thing. So how do you address that?
Shaman Charles:
Alright…uh…hmmm. Number one, I do not consider myself at a
higher consciousness than anybody. The difference is…between myself
and say, somebody laying bricks in the front lawn or whatever the
case is, is [that] they're interested in laying bricks and they're
interested in doing that type of work—masonry. That is something
that I am not interested in. Does it make me better than that
person? No! All that does is that they're doing something different.
The comment I made about bringing humanity into a more spiritual
level…along those lines…is that throughout history humanity has been
devolving too heavily into the physical world…and the emotion and
the astral and the judgment…and things of that sort. And as result,
there is a little bit of a problem here. And the idea is to bring
humanity back into their own home area, which is much more…I'm going
to use the term gently…'spiritual' in nature or less of a judgmental
and/or, not necessarily competitive, but less a judgmental and/or
suppressive and/or subversive way of doing things. The whole idea is
that everybody is blessed with the light of God; it's just a matter
of allowing that to come forward and giving permissions for that to
come forward.
Cindy:
Okay. And so you're talking about what you're trying to teach
people, but your form of teaching is a little bit different than
others because you don't…from what I understand from what you've
taught me, is that you don't go in and say,
"Do this because I say to do
it." It's like you want everybody to test everything on their
own. Can you comment on that? Why would you want somebody to test
everything on their own?
Shaman Charles:
I transfer the power to the individual. Simple as that. The power
and knowledge becomes yours. If you validate what is brought
forward, then you no longer believe in me, per se, and you are no
longer dependent upon me, but you know it first-hand. Therefore,
when you are asked a question,
"Have you validated this? Do
you know this to be true?"— You can say,
"I know this to be true
because I have tested it... I have experienced it first-hand."
It's no longer your insecurity based upon somebody saying,
"Well somebody said that's
true, so therefore, I'm going to believe them." That doesn't
work.
Cindy:
And you don't think that you should believe…well, I don't like to
say the word 'should'…but
Shaman Charles:
That's alright.
Cindy:
It's not beneficial to use…for somebody to believe something just
because they've read it somewhere. You think they need to test it.
Is that correct?
Shaman Charles:
If somebody wishes to explore further…yes, I would prefer that
they'd go ahead and test the principles out. For example, Jesus
said, "Love one another…be
kind and compassionate." Well, okay, why don't you test these
principles out? That's really nice. One of my favorite exercises and
favorite stories is I'd go into a mall with a bad attitude and as a
result of my bad attitude, I'd get lousy service. Everybody out
there has probably done that. And then, a couple of weeks later,
I'll go into the same mall and there's three people to my left and
they [store management] walk across those three people and give me a
chocolate chip cookie with nuts [because of my good attitude]. I
mean, how good can [that] get…you know, that's a real good example
of not only validating and testing the principles…and testing what
it is like to be kind and compassionate, but you'll find that your
life will change as you do these things. Very simple.
Cindy: Very
good. Well, again, I thank Charles for being with us. This has been
another little segment [with him.] And he's taught us so much about
accepting everybody and learning to test things ourselves. Charles,
if we want to know more about you, where can we find you?
Shaman Charles:
Okay, the website is:
http://shamanic-enterprises.com.
Other contact information is on the website plus numerous articles.
Cindy:
Great! Thank you so much! I hope you have a great day.
Shaman Charles:
Thank you.