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Video and Transcript Segment 6

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Spiritual Healing, Shaman Healing, Western Healing – Shaman Interview

In an unrehearsed interview, Shaman Charles Crooks discusses spiritual healing, shaman healing and western healing.

Specific answers are given to the questions: “Spiritual healing versus Western Healing – Do you think there is no value to western medicine?” and “Can you expand on the idea that sometimes people come into this life with certain challenges. Why?” and “Do all shamans heal – Is that one of their functions?”, and “How do you heal?” Listen below to learn more. You can also read the transcription below the video.

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Note: All questions and responses in the above interview were unrehearsed.

Cindy:  Hi. This is Cindy Herb. I'm back with Charles Crooks, the shaman who has helped me these last few years become a very joyful person. Thank you again Charles for being with us this afternoon. 

Shaman Charles:  Thank you very much.

Cindy:  We're talking about shamanism and specifically, [in] this segment we are going to talk about healing, because that's what…one of the functions of a shaman is…we found out…is to heal. So now Charles, I've heard of people seeking out shamans when regular medicine did not work for them. Do you think there is no value in western medicine?  

Shaman Charles:  Oh no. You need to do 50/50. You need to use the best of western medicine, eastern medicine and the shamanic healing principles. You can't reject something. That's kind of silly when you think about it because it's like basically saying, "My finger hurts, so I'm going to have a shaman bless it." Well, it's going to continue to hurt until you fix the problem.   

Cindy:  Okay. Now, there are people who have come to see you. I myself sought out western medicine, but it wasn't enough for me. Then I sought you out. But…do you think a shaman…how can a shaman benefit a person versus any other way? What makes you unique is what I want to know?    

Shaman Charles:  Ouch! I can't answer that question like that. That's kind of a difficult question because, again, my primary job…the primary responsibility is to bring out what you already know. And I use the shamanic principles and the spiritual principles and things of that sort to basically show you where you've got it 'in your closet' and also to help you release the things that no longer serve you. It is only when you release the things that no longer serve you that you'll be free to allow yourself to heal and benefit. Now, there are some situations that are beyond our help, of course. And there are some past lives were people that have basically come in for the purpose of going through some sort of disease or something like that and have a short life…yes. But again, it's you know…I have a real problem with 'being unique.' However, I think I would be…in my work, I am a complimentary or compliment to western and eastern medicine. So, it would be a shame to throw one out just to keep one or the other.

Cindy:  So, what I think I'm hearing is that you don't want to be considered unique because as you've stated [before], "We are all part of the whole and not separate," and that [being unique] would be kind of putting yourself above everybody. And you don't want to be [considered] that way. Is that right?

Shaman Charles:  Well, it doesn't…it's not correct anyway. Gee whiz, you know. Why? Doesn't make sense to me.

Cindy:  But if western medicine wasn't helping somebody, could you help them?

Shaman Charles:  Up to a point.

Cindy:  Up to a point.

Shaman Charles:  But remember, there are certain things that they… [that] can help that there's no amount of energy that will help. Yeah, you can probably…in an ideal, perfect world. Yes, you could put your finger on somebody and heal a liver that's been…or kidney that been destroyed…and then paint the perfect world. But when you really look at it, you're going to need some extra help. For instance, Lasik eye surgery…there's a lot of things you can fix, but when it gets to a certain point, you have to utilize both systems. You cannot reject one or the other. But basically, you can use the best that both…all of them have to offer.     

Cindy:  And I appreciate that about you. One of the first things that you said to me when I came to see you, Charles, was…I have…and people don't know this, but I have some different health issues than most people. And you sat down and I asked you if you could help me and you said, "Honestly Cindy, I don't know. We can try. I've never handled this [type of situation] before but we will try." You also said that sometimes that people come into this world with certain challenges.

Shaman Charles:  Yeah.

Cindy:  Can you explain that to our viewers?

Shaman Charles:  Yes. For example, let's say somebody wishes to come in and they say, "Okay, I need to do…I would like to do so many things." And they say, "Yet, you know what, I have need to learn what this is like. I have need to go through this experience."  So, they will actually set it up. And you can actually have a good astrologer or [someone] good at numerology look at their numbers or their charts or whatever…and [you can] actually see all this stuff laid out. And that's the neat thing about it. You can actually validate this stuff. So, yes, it is not arbitrary.   

Cindy:  Now speaking again about numerology and astrology, we all have choice, though. So people may say, "I went to an astrologer. None of the stuff that they said happened to me." Is it because we do have choice?

Shaman Charles:  Yes, it is.  For example, let's say in your chart you have to learn about some sort of emotional thing. Well, if you figure it out, then that becomes moot…no longer in effect. You've risen above that aspect of your chart.

Cindy:  Alright. So now, when you heal...because you do heal. Is that correct?  

Shaman Charles:  Yeah.

Cindy:  You do heal.   

Shaman Charles:  I call it fixing things.

Cindy:  Fixing things. Do you restore balance to the body? Is that what…could that be one of the things that happens with people is that they need balance in their bodies? They got things out of balance…because that's what people say to me that I need more balance.  

Shaman Charles:  Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that. When I remove an old blockage; then things flow more in harmony with the individual. Under those conditions, a person will feel lighter. I would have trouble using the term 'balance.' And the reason is because it's almost judgmental. It bothers me to use that term because today somebody might be balanced and tomorrow they may have too much wine and may be imbalanced. So, I would kind of shy away from using that statement.    

Cindy:  Alright. I want to talk again about reincarnation, but I going to save that for our next segment. I appreciate you being with us this afternoon, Charles. Thank you so much.  If we want to get in contact with you and maybe use your services, how can we do that?

Shaman Charles:  The website is: http://shamanic-enterprises.com.

Cindy:  Thank you so much!

Shaman Charles:  And thank you. 

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